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Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) acknowledged Tuesday that he had “violated the vows” of marriage by having an affair with a campaign staffer.

The admission — made in a televised appearance in Las Vegas — shocked Ensign’s Senate colleagues and delivered a serious blow to any hopes he might have had of seeking the GOP presidential nomination in 2012.

Political insiders in the Senate and in Nevada told POLITICO that Ensign began the affair with the staffer several months after he separated from his wife, Darlene. When Ensign reconciled with his wife, the sources said, he gave the aide a severance package, and the two parted ways.

Some time later, a Nevada source said, Ensign met with the husband of the woman involved and had what this source described as a positive encounter. Sources said that the man subsequently asked Ensign for a substantial sum of money — at which point Ensign decided to make the affair public.

Ensign did not provide specifics about the affair Tuesday, nor did he identify the woman involved, except to say that she and her husband “were close friends, and both of them worked for me.”

“Last year, I had an affair,” Ensign said. “I violated the vows of my marriage. It is the worst thing I have ever done in my life. If there was ever anything in my life that I could take back, this would be it. I take full responsibility for my actions.”

Ensign said he deeply regretted the affair — and that he remains committed to his Senate duties.

In a statement to the Las Vegas Sun, Darlene Ensign said: “Since we found out last year, we have worked through the situation, and we have come to a reconciliation. This has been difficult on both families. With the help of our family and close friends, our marriage has become stronger.”

Ensign informed fellow Nevadan Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, about his situation prior to making his public announcement.

“I don’t know the details. I talked with him today,” Reid told POLITICO Tuesday afternoon. “Of course, he’s my friend. This is a private, family matter. I just hope that Darlene and he work things out.”

Reid said he didn’t offer any advice on how to handle the situation. “I didn’t give him any advice,” he said. “I just told him he’s my friend. I’m pulling for him. Anything I can do to help, let me know.”

Ensign is chairman of the GOP Policy Committee, making him the highest-ranking Republican senator in Nevada’s history.

Ensign was absent from Capitol Hill on Tuesday, skipping the weekly lunch that his committee hosts for GOP senators and its ensuing news conference, where party leaders espouse their weekly message.

His announcement stunned colleagues, who were preparing for this summer’s big battles over the Supreme Court nomination of Sonia Sotomayor and health care reform but now have to contend with a drama hovering over one of their leaders.

Elected in 2000, the 51-year-old Ensign has moved up the leadership chain in the Senate. As chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee in 2008, Ensign oversaw the devastating losses by GOP candidates. But his party largely spared him of blame, casting it instead on an unpopular president who dragged down the party’s brand. Since then, Ensign has sought to articulate conservative principles and is a mainstay at GOP news conferences deriding Democrats’ domestic policies.

Ensign ran for the Senate in 1998 against Reid in a nasty cliffhanger race that Reid won by a razor-thin 428 votes. Reid and Ensign have since reached a détente; neither man criticizes the other by name back home.

A staunch fiscal and social conservative, Ensign has been considered a rising star in his party, recently making headlines by speaking at events in Iowa, raising speculation about his interest in a run for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012.

A born-again Christian, Ensign has been a member of the Promise Keepers, a male evangelical group that promotes marital fidelity.

When former Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) was arrested in an airport men’s room in the summer of 2007, Ensign was among Craig’s toughest critics, saying Craig should step down because he had been charged with a crime.

“I wouldn’t put myself, hopefully, in that kind of position, but if I was in a position like that, that’s what I would do,” Ensign told The Associated Press at the time.

During the 1998 impeachment of President Bill Clinton, Ensign, then a Senate candidate, called on Clinton to resign.



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I'm continually amazed at how many US Congressmen with Presidential hopes - play with the infidelity fire. Which supports how strong the pull is to affairs. You are willing to risk everything.

And this particular man seemed so meshed in his strong religious beliefs....so strong in his condemnation of other political figures who stumbled....and he even belonged to a male evangelical group promoting fidelity.

It's like he betrayed is wife and the very core of his beliefs (or at least the beliefs he professed to the public), and he was willing to risk EVERYTHING for the affair. Amazing.

Hmmm...anyone believe the story that he was already separated from his wife when the A began? Brow


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I'm more surprised that there aren't stories like this about virtually all of them. I suspect it's far more common than even the high profile cases make it appear. Someone on MB, years ago, posted an article or some research about the higher incidence of affairs among men in positions of power. It's tied to the sense of entitlement that comes with wealth and power. I wanna say it was johnh3439 (or whatever the numbers were!) but I could be wrong about that.

I'm not surprised either that he was known for his strong religious views. Those who protest the loudest and all that ....

What I find so hard to fathom is the idea that being honest, ending the affair, working to heal his marriage, apparently apologize to the AP's spouse AND to come forward voluntarily will likely spell the end of his political hopes. But those in the know will look the other way as long as you don't get caught. Bizarre.

Not that I think what he did is ok - but maybe if we focused on how people like this handle it afterward there would be more marriages repaired and more role models to lead the way back to integrity.

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I don't know. It doesn't shock me at all that those with strong religious beliefs against infidelity commit infidelity. I think most people who have affairs believed in their core that they would never do that, then do it.

I believe only teeny tiny fraction of people believe themselves capable of an affair - until they are boiling in it, then it is typically justified away as we have all heard more than once! And I believe that justification is because of that personal belief in themselves that they wouldn't have an affair. Have to make it line up somehow with their original belief about themselves.

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Hmmm...anyone believe the story that he was already separated from his wife when the A began?

No. He's justifying.
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Someone on MB, years ago, posted an article or some research about the higher incidence of affairs among men in positions of power. It's tied to the sense of entitlement that comes with wealth and power. I

I think I remember that article and it is the power. Very interesting.

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What I find so hard to fathom is the idea that being honest, ending the affair, working to heal his marriage, apparently apologize to the AP's spouse AND to come forward voluntarily will likely spell the end of his political hopes. But those in the know will look the other way as long as you don't get caught. Bizarre.

You know, the part about dashing presidential hopes makes sense to me. Even though a person may do all the right things and make amends - well that is easy to see when you are close to that person - the spouse, child, friend etc. That builds trust within that relationship. It is much harder, as a remove public, to truely believe what they say but you can't really see what they really do. And we always say believe their actions not neccesarily their words.

I think it would take probably years for a public to really believe that they are trustworthy partly because of the reputation politicians have of bending the truth to their liking even without an affair. And partly because it would take on a whole different level of trust-building with the public that seems rather impossible in the political arena anyway. Add an affair and it seems they are untrustworthy at what most would assume is their most important relationship. Why would they be trustworthy to complete strangers?

Not that I neccesarily agree with that rationale but I do understand it.

And I say all that and then the Kennedys come to mind. Brow1


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PS - And for some reason the word POLITICO really cracked me up. What a name!!! Laughing I wonder if their parent organization is KAOS and run by Maxwell Smart.


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higher incidence of affairs among men in positions of power. It's tied to the sense of entitlement that comes with wealth and power


I was reading one of the articles on the site you posted that had the Stosny article Penny (man it was like a labyrinth - every article I read had another 5 tantalising links on the side!). It was talking about the polygnous history/origins of humans and how it was the wealthy and powerful in such a society that had access to the multiple wives. It pointed out that a similar effect operates today - less openly - in terms of infidelity or the serial monogamy whereby powerful men marry women for the duration of their childbearing years and then trade in for a younger model (effectively still depriving lower status men of a childbearing partner - without the burden of having to keep them after they age!). I'm paraphrasing, but it was interesting (and depressing?) food for thought.

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being honest, ending the affair, working to heal his marriage, apparently apologize to the AP's spouse AND to come forward voluntarily will likely spell the end of his political hopes


Yes this struck me too - especially reading the bit about the affair starting after they separated... which I took at face value when I read it! Perhaps I'm gullible. But it seemed so much lesser than all the undercover and "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" stuff that goes on without any real consequence.

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I think most people who have affairs believed in their core that they would never do that, then do it.


That's spot on Tiggy. Yet I didn't think of it till you said it. It's like we see people who espouse these values as being strong in them - and everybody else as if they just waft about without any particular values. But mostly they DO have them. The pull is just that strong. Knowing that, I wonder why we (I?) still have that perception.
 
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It's tied to the sense of entitlement that comes with wealth and power.



Sometimes I don't think it has anything to do with wealth or power. I just have a feeling that there are some in the world who think they are entitled for whatever reason. Be it the way they were brought up or how their brain fires or yes, wealth and power.

And it is so sad. I read this article yesterday and I hope for the sake of his family that he and his wife work it out.


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I think there are some of these - I've met one - the type who seek out multiple affairs with full intention beforehand, and aren't sorry after (except about being caught). Doesn't sound like that sort of scenario though.
 
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I would rather have someone who has made mistakes, learned from them, and become a man of higher integrity, compassion, and honesty -- by learning the depths of his own humanity -- as President than any innocent.

In many ways, it's similar to how the greatest pacifists are the people who have actually seen war -- and learned to hate it on personal, up-close terms. I would hate to have an innocent in the White House. Imagine the dreadful mistakes that would happen then.

But then, perhaps we have had all too many innocents already.

And of course, when it's someone who is not an innocent, you don't always know exactly what they've learned. Some learn to love war, as well as those who learn to hate it.


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I would rather have someone who has made mistakes, learned from them, and become a man of higher integrity, compassion, and honesty -- by learning the depths of his own humanity -- as President than any innocent.

Certainly and good point.
The problem still is how they prove that they have learned from their mistakes, and reached for higher levels of integrity, compassion and honesty. That is far easier to accomplish within one relationship with your spouse. I believe it would far more difficult to accomplish with the public at large.

Not sure what exactly you mean when you say "innocent".

HOwever, if I understand you right, I do think it takes far more than to have made bad choices and corrected them to be a good leader!

Also, I think I disagree that someone who is an innocent (i.e. someone who hasn't made wrong choices, and who hasn't?) isn't capable of being a strong ethical leader.

I do agree that suffering a tragedy or loss can give a person depth and understanding.

All that said and I am not even sure it continues to *really* matter what a person's sexual moral history is when trying to become president. I mean we reelect representative all the time that have made some iffy or even blatant bad choices.


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I think in this context an 'innocent' would be someone who hasn't been tested.

Too often I hear people make broad brush statements about the actions of others without ever having been in their shoes. Like my innocent little friend in 1st year uni who told us all how she would like to meet a guy and 'be friends, maybe hold hands' for about 3 years and then get married - anything else was a bit lacking in class/self restraint. Within 6 months she was making out with him in the glass doored common room of... wait for it... our Opus Dei nun-run college! Eek
Or the way I dragged H over the coals for his flirtation when we were going out. It was so obvious to me how wrong it was I had no empathy or insight whatsoever.
I think that sort of innocence is different from the ones who have been tested, but made the right choices. Although I suppose one could argue that maybe they just hadn't been tested as savagely as somebody else. Who knows. I know people can go their whole lives without being tested on a number of assumptions. I think being tested... and not running away or justifying the result, but facing and learning from it, grows a person. It seems like Ensign is one of those who formed and publicised his views when he had not yet been tested - and then he was.

I do often wonder about the relevance of sexual or other history in jobs that don't relate to it. On the one hand it makes sense that a person's principles and actions and thoughts are indicative of who they are. On the other hand I could hire someone who is an excellent bricklayer but a ruthless philanderer. Not all personality factors affect ability to conduct all jobs. I guess it depends on what the primary skills are required for which jobs. I wonder to what extent sexual fidelity relates to anything a politician does. Arguably a recurrently successful philanderer would be a great hire for cigarette marketing - great promotional skills and not too fussy about honesty? Crazy
 
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Sounds John Ensign is at the beginning stages of the learning curve of becoming enlightened. I think for the past year he's been scrambling to keep this whole affair quiet and finally came out publically when the story was about to hit the newspapers anyway.

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Reporting from Las Vegas -- Nevada Sen. John Ensign's admission of an extramarital affair has turned into something of a saga here, with his aides on Friday accusing the husband of his former mistress of trying to weasel money from the once-rising GOP star.

Tory Mazzola, an Ensign spokesman, said in an e-mail that the husband, Doug Hampton, had recently through an attorney made exorbitant demands for "cash and other financial benefits."

"Doug Hampton's outrageous demand was referred to Sen. Ensign's legal counsel, who is handling the matter going forward," Mazzola said.

Daniel Albregts, attorney for Doug and Cynthia Hampton, declined to comment.

Meanwhile, Doug Hampton had unloaded his woes to Fox News in a distraught letter, in which he said that Ensign had "ruined our lives and careers and left my family in shambles" and that he yearned for "justice, help and restitution."


In essence, the former co-workers and golfing buddies are engaged in the kind of finger-pointing typical of a soured relationship -- only the accusations are more grave and the stakes far higher.

On Tuesday, the day after Fox received the letter, Ensign abruptly admitted to a months-long affair with aide Cynthia Hampton. On Wednesday he resigned as chairman of the Republican Policy Committee, a top Senate leadership position, after critics branded him a hypocrite for chastising others for their indiscretions -- including then-President Clinton, whom he called on to resign -- and then indulging in his own.

In his letter, printed Friday by the Las Vegas Sun, Hampton described the Ensigns as "lifelong friends." Their homes are in the same tony section of town; their children attended the same schools. The senator eventually hired both Hamptons: Doug as his administrative assistant, Cynthia for his campaign and his political action committee.

The extramarital affair began in December 2007, both sides have said. In February 2008, Hampton's letter says, he confronted Ensign at the senator's Washington home in front of a group that included Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.).

The same month, Cynthia Hampton's salary doubled, federal records show, though Ensign's camp has said she took on additional duties.

"Senator Ensign's conduct and relentless pursuit of my wife led to our dismissal in April of 2008," Hampton's letter says. "I would like to say he stopped his heinous conduct and pursuit upon our leaving but . . . his actions did not subside until August of 2008."

In the months after the Hamptons left Ensign's office, Doug Hampton landed jobs with two companies closely tied to the senator: first a consulting firm and then Las Vegas-based Allegiant Air. Ensign made calls on Hampton's behalf, the Associated Press reported.

The Hamptons' 19-year-old son, Brandon, also worked for the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which Ensign chaired, from March 2008 to August 2008.

Still, Hampton's letter says, "we have lost significant income, suffered indescribable pain and emotional suffering."

In the letter, addressed to Fox News anchorwoman Megyn Kelly, dated June 11, Hampton says he has documents, phone records and witnesses to back up his claims. Tom Lowell, senior producer of the cable network's "America's Newsroom," said a show booker received the letter via e-mail on Monday.

"We followed up with him, but he seemed evasive and not credible, thus we didn't pursue it," Lowell told the Huffington Post. "We certainly weren't going to rush to air with accusations against a sitting senator without doing due diligence on the reputability of the claims."

Lowell denied that anyone at Fox News tipped off Ensign, who on Tuesday hurriedly flew from Washington to Las Vegas for a brief news conference.

"Our families were close," he told reporters. "That closeness put me into situations which led to my inappropriate behavior. We caused deep pain to both families and for that I am sorry."

On Friday, Rep. Shelley Berkley (D-Las Vegas) told Politico.com that she was weighing whether to challenge the social and fiscal conservative in 2012. "I think his ability to represent the state and the people who call Nevada home has been compromised dramatically," she said, though she stopped short of calling for his resignation.

Eric Herzik, chairman of the political science department at the University of Nevada at Reno, said he considered the "sex part" of the Ensign scandal over. "But if Hampton allegedly tried to extort a U.S. senator, he's either stupid or he's got something else to drop. And the longer this is in the public eye, the more damage is done to Ensign."

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PS - And for some reason the word POLITICO really cracked me up. What a name!!! Laughing I wonder if their parent organization is KAOS and run by Maxwell Smart.


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"Would you believe I was separated from my wife when I was dating her? She was separated too!"

Ummm...missed it by THAT much.


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Wow everybody concerned sounds dodgy as hell.
 
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"Would you believe I was separated from my wife when I was dating her? She was separated too!"

Ummm...missed it by THAT much.


Oh my gosh! I think I actually heard Maxwell Smart when I read that GS!!! Laughing Hmmm, could have something to do with the wine too though.


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This needs to be posted.....

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Tory Mazzola, an Ensign spokesman, said in an e-mail that the husband, Doug Hampton, had recently through an attorney made exorbitant demands for "cash and other financial benefits."

"Doug Hampton's outrageous demand was referred to Sen. Ensign's legal counsel, who is handling the matter going forward," Mazzola said.


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Meanwhile, Doug Hampton had unloaded his woes to Fox News in a distraught letter, in which he said that Ensign had "ruined our lives and careers and left my family in shambles" and that he yearned for "justice, help and restitution."


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"We followed up with him, but he seemed evasive and not credible, thus we didn't pursue it," Lowell told the Huffington Post. "We certainly weren't going to rush to air with accusations against a sitting senator without doing due diligence on the reputability of the claims."


Yanno - Bill Harley always said to "put it on the evening news," in regard to exposure. I'm just not sure it doesn't make the BP look a wee bit insane. 'Specially since the affair was already over. Fascinating to watch though!

What I really wanna know is why the senator's career is ruined and Angelina Jolie's is stronger than ever?

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What I really wanna know is why the senator's career is ruined and Angelina Jolie's is stronger than ever?

Now isn't that the truth!

And after all my little *arguements* I really wonder if it will matter in the long run. We in Oregon had good old Bob Packwood long after the years and years of sexual harassment he had committed.

Besides some of my favorite people have had affairs. Of course they have become super-heros with a big fidelity written on thier cape. (So where's the superhero graemlin when you need one!? scratching chin )

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Yanno - Bill Harley always said to "put it on the evening news," in regard to exposure. I'm just not sure it doesn't make the BP look a wee bit insane. 'Specially since the affair was already over. Fascinating to watch though!


I have never quite understood the concept of exposure. With my first husband, it seemed like everyone knew about his affair and all it seemed to do is isolate me and my children. People were, of course, not in favour of the affair but didn't have a clue how they were supposed to react, so they just stayed away saying it was none of their business.

My husband now, I made it extremely clear that I didn't want the world to know. He did however, end the affair immediately, so maybe I would have chosen something different if he hadn't. I don't know.


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I have never quite understood the concept of exposure. With my first husband, it seemed like everyone knew about his affair and all it seemed to do is isolate me and my children. People were, of course, not in favour of the affair but didn't have a clue how they were supposed to react, so they just stayed away saying it was none of their business.


Worse, I think it can make the BS out 2 seem overly vindictive and the WS overly villanous.

I exposed way back in the olden days, 2 family and a few close friends based on MB recommendations. Did absolutely no good at all. In fact, it only alienated my W's best friend when she chose 2 expose 2 their employer (my W had hired OM as a consultant, and that's why her friend informed the company). My W hasn't spoken 2 her since, and that was almost 6 years ago now.

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Agree and agree.

I think, like just about anything else, it's essential to use discernment and to act from a place of reasoned groundedness. As I've said for more years than I care to think about - you can't legislate either intelligent or ethical behavior.

There are times when I think exposure is absolutely the correct choice. And times when it is utterly harmful. This is where all the work on values and compassion becomes central to the process. And it helps to have someone knowledgeable about the bigger picture to bounce things off of as well.

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